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GIULIANI: Prescription Drugs From Canada - a Terrorist Threat
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torresD
2005-04-13 07:42:05 UTC
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"It's intentional misinformation once again,"

said MacKay.

"It was bought and paid for by (drug companies),
so you have to consider the source.

But it's unfortunate the mayor would stoop to this."

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/050411/w041180.html
WASHINGTON (CP) -

Prescription drug imports from Canada and
elsewhere could become a tool for terrorists
and efforts to legalize them should stop now,
said a report Monday from former New York
mayor Rudy Giuliani.

The report,
commissioned by drug companies that
lose big profits on the cheaper imports,
noted Canadian Internet pharmacies are filling
U.S. prescriptions with medicines from foreign
countries and counterfeit drug cases are rising.

"Several credible sources
have identified links between
counterfeit goods,

including pharmaceuticals,
and organized criminals
and terrorist groups," said Giuliani.

"It is not difficult to imagine a
scenario in which terrorist groups
could use this system to either finance
operations or, worse, as a vehicle of attack."

The report calls on the U.S. Homeland
Security Department to conduct a threat
assessment of drug imports.

"We should not contemplate opening our borders
to threats to our medicine supply when in all
other aspects we are searching for ways to tighten
the security of our borders," said Giuliani.

It was the latest salvo from
opponents of the flourishing trade.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has long warned
of safety concerns even as several states and some
cities devised programs for their citizens and
Congress is considering several bills to
legalize the practice.

David MacKay, executive director of
the Canadian International Pharmacy
Association,

said the report is full of errors,
including suggestions that Canadian
Internet pharmacies are unregulated.

"It's intentional misinformation once again,"

said MacKay.

"It was bought and paid for by (drug companies),
so you have to consider the source.

But it's unfortunate the mayor would stoop to this."

Canadian pharmacists fill about 30 per cent
of their U.S. prescriptions with drugs from
other countries,

but they are mostly from Europe or other
industrialized countries with similar
tight regulations, said MacKay.

"You can't lump Canada in
with countries like Pakistan.

That's just a scare tactic."

"And again with this terrorist card.

Everyone is tired of hearing this," he said.

"And counterfeiters don't even exist in Canada.

We're as resistant to counterfeiting
as you can get while the U.S. virtually
invites it."

Secondary wholesalers in the United States
are allowed to repackage and re-label medicines,
making them vulnerable to scams, he said.

That's not allowed in Canada.

The report says it would cost billions
for the FDA to implement a safe import
inspection system.

Meanwhile, several organizations in
Canada have been pushing Health
Minister Ujjal Dosanjh to crack
down on imports.

Dosanjh is weighing several options,
including banning Canadian doctors from
signing prescriptions for patients
they haven't examined,

forcing Americans to show up in person
to get their drugs or stopping exports
of patented drugs at Canada's federally
regulated prices.

Guiliani's report was commissioned by
the Pharmaceutical Research and
Manufacturers of America.

"We have several safe and legal options
for those looking for ways to reduce
their prescription drug costs,"
said president Billy Tauzin.

U.S. drugmakers,
who've been criticized for opposing imports,
announced last week they'd spend $30 million
U.S. to develop and promote a program to help
poor Americans get the medicines they need.
Bill Levinson
2005-04-15 16:46:21 UTC
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Post by torresD
"It's intentional misinformation once again,"
said MacKay.
"It was bought and paid for by (drug companies),
so you have to consider the source.
But it's unfortunate the mayor would stoop to this."
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/050411/w041180.html
WASHINGTON (CP) -
Prescription drug imports from Canada and
elsewhere could become a tool for terrorists
and efforts to legalize them should stop now,
said a report Monday from former New York
mayor Rudy Giuliani.
The report,
commissioned by drug companies that
lose big profits on the cheaper imports,
noted Canadian Internet pharmacies are filling
U.S. prescriptions with medicines from foreign
countries and counterfeit drug cases are rising.
TorresD, here is where you and your fellow activists could make
yourselves useful.

The drug companies are publishing ads that say "you don't know where
your Canadian drugs are coming from." Most if not all of these companies
are registered to the ISO 9000 standard for quality management systems.
ISO 9000 requires, among other things, product traceability. It sounds
like they have a traceability problem here that they should have to
correct as a condition of maintaining their ISO 9000 registration.

In addition, if it is possible that drugs FROM Canadian pharmacies are
counterfeit, Canadian health authorities should be concerned (if what
the drug companies themselves are saying is true) that drugs going TO
Canadian pharmacies with these drug companies' names on them are also
counterfeit. This is assuming that the drug companies really do have
such poor control over their distribution systems-- as they themselves
are telling everyone-- that their name on the label is no guarantee that
they actually manufactured the medication. The FDA also might be
interested in learning (perhaps by being sent the drug companies' own
ads) that the companies think they have a security problem, and perhaps
that they should be more heavily-regulated by the FDA to fix this problem.

I consider myself an expert on applying "be careful what you wish, you
might get it" to real-world situations, by the way. Here's another
example; a car dealer refused to fix my car's paint job for free
because, so he said, the paint must have been stripped off by
high-pressure water in a car wash. I wrote to the manufacturer, cc: the
dealer, and said "Your OWN DEALER [name given] says your paint jobs are
so lousy that they come off in the car wash." (I may also have
threatened to write a letter to the editor along these lines.) Needless
to say, I got a free replacement paint job VERY promptly.

Of course, I do this sort of thing to anti-2nd Amendment groups as well
but any dirtbag is a fair target.

--Bill
http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/
Sanders Kaufman
2005-04-15 19:45:23 UTC
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The drug companies are publishing ads that say "you don't know where your
Canadian drugs are coming from." Most if not all of these companies are
registered to the ISO 9000 standard for quality management systems. ISO
9000 requires, among other things, product traceability. It sounds like
they have a traceability problem here that they should have to correct as
a condition of maintaining their ISO 9000 registration.
Those drugs are (no pun inteded) poison pills.
Candadian drugs and American drugs come from the same place.
The bad pills are put on the market by NeoCons to undermine the faith of
those people who need them to live.

Americans, unable to keep up with progress - are simply trying to undermine
others'.
It's one of the many, many reasons why Americans have such a hard time
selling their products to other nations.
Nobody trusts Americans anymore.
wally
2005-04-16 04:13:23 UTC
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Post by torresD
Prescription drug imports from Canada and
elsewhere could become a tool for terrorists
and efforts to legalize them should stop now,
said a report Monday from former New York
mayor Rudy Giuliani.
i have no probs with americans looking out for american interests.
thats totally fair. but evoking the name of terrorism for nothing more
than insincere corporatation-backed rhetoric is beneath contempt.
especially considering 'dolph guiliani was eyewitness to the 9/11
nightmare. canadian pharaceuticals come from the same place american
pharms come from. rudy knows that fact right-to-left, upside down and
backwards. but facts apparently dont matter.he's willing to exploit
that awful event of 2001 for corporate interests. havent you made
enough cashola from that horror, giuliani.

p.s. new york rocks
Freedom Fighter
2005-04-16 22:12:04 UTC
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Post by wally
Post by torresD
Prescription drug imports from Canada and
elsewhere could become a tool for terrorists
and efforts to legalize them should stop now,
said a report Monday from former New York
mayor Rudy Giuliani.
i have no probs with americans looking out for american interests.
thats totally fair. but evoking the name of terrorism for nothing more
than insincere corporatation-backed rhetoric is beneath contempt.
especially considering 'dolph guiliani was eyewitness to the 9/11
nightmare. canadian pharaceuticals come from the same place american
pharms come from. rudy knows that fact right-to-left, upside down and
backwards. but facts apparently dont matter.he's willing to exploit
that awful event of 2001 for corporate interests. havent you made
enough cashola from that horror, giuliani.
p.s. new york rocks
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The fact the statement comes from Tyrant Ghouliani alone is sufficient to
discredit it, but look beyond the message's malicious source and examine the
relevant facts. The facts are that the profiteering pharmaceutical industry
has priced medical drugs beyond the reach of many Americans lacking the
insurance coverage that makes them affordable. These are primarily the
elderly and indigent, often those that need such drugs the most. Why
shouldn't free market competition from Canada be allowed to make these
medicines available to such people? How low can one go than to deny these
medicines to those in need of them under the ridiculously false pretense
that to do so may support terrorists?

The answer is that Giuliani is an instrument, champion, and leader of the
amoral government-corpserate oligarchy ruling America. No one has exploited,
and continues to exploit, the 9/11 attacks and terrorism in general more
than this mean-spirited despot.

Though sworn to uphold our Constitution, by the end of 2002 the courts had
found Giuliani in violation of the First Amendment TWENTY SEVEN TIMES. Mayor
David Dinkins, his predecessor in office, bravely stated that Giuliani is
" - a bully, mean-spirited, and he rules through fear and intimidation." New
York's previous mayor, Ed Koch, has said that Giuliani " - uses the levers
of power to punish." Among the many arrogant abuses of power by "mayor
morality" was the assignment, at taxpayer expense, of several NYPD
detectives as round-the-clock bodyguards for his MISTRESS. Giuliani's vile
racism has even been acknowledged by his successor, Mayor Bloomberg: "You
forget that every single decision [in the Giuliani administration],
everybody, every story, everything was always couched in terms of race" -
quoted in the November 4, 2003 Daily News from Vanity Fair magazine.

But the tyrant's own words say it best:

" - FREEDOM IS NOT A CONCEPT IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN DO ANYTHING
THEY WANT, BE ANYTHING THEY CAN BE. FREEDOM IS ABOUT AUTHORITY.
FREEDOM IS ABOUT THE WILLINGNESS OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING
TO CEDE TO LAWFUL AUTHORITY A GREAT DEAL OF DISCRETION ABOUT
WHAT YOU DO AND HOW YOU DO IT."
- Mayor Giuliani, quoted in the New York Times, March 17, 1994.

"State authority must provide for peace and order, and peace and order in
turn must conversely make possible the existence of state authority. Within
these two poles all life must now revolve...Ideas of 'freedom,' mostly of a
misunderstood nature, inject themselves into the state conceptions of these
circles." - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf.

Berlin, Monday, Aug. 20, 1934 -- Eighty-nine and nine-tenths percent of the
German voters endorsed in yesterday's plebiscite Chancellor Hitler's
assumption of greater power than has ever been possessed by any other ruler
in modern times. Nearly 10 per cent indicated their disapproval. The result
was expected.
slim
2005-04-17 02:19:59 UTC
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Post by wally
Post by torresD
Prescription drug imports from Canada and
elsewhere could become a tool for terrorists
and efforts to legalize them should stop now,
said a report Monday from former New York
mayor Rudy Giuliani.
i have no probs with americans looking out for american interests.
thats totally fair. but evoking the name of terrorism for nothing more
than insincere corporatation-backed rhetoric is beneath contempt.
especially considering 'dolph guiliani was eyewitness to the 9/11
nightmare. canadian pharaceuticals come from the same place american
pharms come from. rudy knows that fact right-to-left, upside down and
backwards. but facts apparently dont matter.he's willing to exploit
that awful event of 2001 for corporate interests. havent you made
enough cashola from that horror, giuliani.
p.s. new york rocks
Thank you, for knowing the TRUTH!
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"This notion that the United States is getting ready
to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. Having said that,
all options are on the table,"
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slim
2005-04-17 02:21:47 UTC
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Post by torresD
"It's intentional misinformation once again,"
said MacKay.
"It was bought and paid for by (drug companies),
so you have to consider the source.
But it's unfortunate the mayor would stoop to this."
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/050411/w041180.html
WASHINGTON (CP) -
Prescription drug imports from Canada and
elsewhere could become a tool for terrorists
and efforts to legalize them should stop now,
said a report Monday from former New York
mayor Rudy Giuliani.
The report,
commissioned by drug companies that
lose big profits on the cheaper imports,
noted Canadian Internet pharmacies are filling
U.S. prescriptions with medicines from foreign
countries and counterfeit drug cases are rising.
"Several credible sources
have identified links between
counterfeit goods,
including pharmaceuticals,
and organized criminals
and terrorist groups," said Giuliani.
Funny, but there is the OBVIOUS connection between the
Bush and Bin Laden families which the Right refuses to
acknowledge!
--
"This notion that the United States is getting ready
to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. Having said that,
all options are on the table,"
George Bush, Feb 22 2005

http://www.quantumphilosophy.net/files/clips/TimRyan_Medium.mov

http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html
http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/weapons.html#wms
WHY IRAQ?: http://www.angelfire.com/creep/gwbush/remindus.html
http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/shockwave/chickenhawks.htm

"Bubba got a BJ, BU$H screwed us all!" - Slim
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